tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3356090267744964460.post6305278565268816930..comments2023-04-08T16:36:47.449+02:00Comments on Chris Daniel: Kepler retrospection - was CBI a net loss?Krzysztof (Chris) Danielhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02643339658259354232noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3356090267744964460.post-11187090205126532872014-03-18T07:47:54.866+01:002014-03-18T07:47:54.866+01:00Matthias,
the problem is not that much about the ...Matthias, <br />the problem is not that much about the build system, which is rather simple, but rather about dependency chain (you need entire maven stack, tycho, and a bunch of other dependencies), which requires (really) a lot of manhours to prepare.<br />Even with the full knowledge of a build system, dependency reconciliation and discovering what does not work and why was about a week when moving from milestone to milestone.<br />All that could be improved, but other distros would have to join the effort (and they did not).<br />If you want to give it a try, please join #fedora-java or #eclipse-dev and look for akurtakov.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3356090267744964460.post-88469969245750782412014-03-17T19:50:35.865+01:002014-03-17T19:50:35.865+01:00Have you published and documented your Fedora Ecli...Have you published and documented your Fedora Eclipse build system somewhere? I had great trouble getting anything to work in official build servers without internet connection. It may be useful for other (RPM) based distributions because right now, everyone just repackages the eclipse.org builds, even Gentoo/Arch.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16792967267481225643noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3356090267744964460.post-32877581674893060912013-06-28T16:28:52.673+02:002013-06-28T16:28:52.673+02:00"Net loss so far" does *not* imply it wa..."Net loss so far" does *not* imply it wasn't worth doing. Those notes reflect an honest discussion of the past year from the perspective of Platform committers, and that's all. It's absolutely the case that CBI was good for the Eclipse Foundation, good for many in the Eclipse community, and will hopefully bring about benefits for Platform committers over time as well.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00510274873678320365noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3356090267744964460.post-8903061158435446152013-06-28T15:43:51.036+02:002013-06-28T15:43:51.036+02:00I agree. Net loss implies it wasn't worth doin...I agree. Net loss implies it wasn't worth doing. That's really not the case here.<br /><br />And I don't think the message was intended to imply the Eclipse platform was better off with PDE build.<br /><br />In any investment, you don't calculate loss or gain purely on the investment up front. The CBI platform build will continue to provide benefit from now on.<br /><br />One more thanks to the team that made this happen. And thanks to those who tolerated/accepted their build system changing on them.Andrew Rosshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07952152053452186395noreply@blogger.com